http://ofyourdeath.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] ofyourdeath.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] tothetune2009-08-28 04:19 am

Twitter Post

Frank Iero
  • 15:41:21: @mynameislorena I can't, diablo wrote that
  • 15:43:10: Haha RT @seriouscreep: uhhh just saw a girl post the phrase " twiggaz" to describe her tweet niggaz. GENIUS!
  • 18:33:10: @thewrongshoes judges?....um sorry the judges are saying not racist, because it ended in the friendly -A and not the racist suffix -ER.
  • 21:23:12: @x_muffingirl that was actually a message for you from your mom, she also sez pick your socks up off the floor! We were hoping u saw it phew
  • 21:27:36: @thewrongshoes you are an annoying simpleton, i bet you tell people its not the heat its the humidity. I take pleasure in blocking you.

Mikey Way
  • 16:16:36: @Gofackadawg I want to swim in a pool of power aid slush into a French fried waterfall
  • 16:41:51: Congrats to the debiaks once again!! RT @marcdebiak: Baby Watch 2009 update: Samuel Joseph Debiak. 7lbs 13oz. 4:01pm.
  • 20:17:01: "Uncle Touchy's naked puzzle basement"
  • 20:41:47: Sister i'm-ahhhhhh.....http://bit.ly/rVLKB
  • 20:43:03: @gerardway hahahahah thanks for the cd, i definately had to pause a few times because i was "LOLing" so much

Gerard Way

20:17:43: @mikeyway Ha!


Note: Some of these tweets are potentially triggery for racist language. Please proceed with caution. We apologize for the incredibly late note.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I took it that way too. I did a twitter research. LOTS of black people are using the word 'twigga' to greet their followers or when they say good night to them all. I searched the word in twitter and a lot came up, they all had display pics and they were black people. So most probably, this person who seriouscreep saw using the word was black and she just found the twitter-variation funny -so do I, I find it funny that peopel are adapting lots of words to twitter. SHE said it was genius, not Frank. Frank only retwitted it and said 'haha', which having seen other of his twits with the same reply, most probably doesn't mean he found it exactly HILARIOUS, it's more like mockery. A 'ha ha, how funny'.

I find it wrong to practically call someone racist for something so simple and that you don't know the details of. And the word 'nigga' IS used among black people like 'mate' or 'buddy' That's what I've seen and heard, I'm not saying I know much about the reason why they do so, but there seem to be a different to them between that way of the word and the one ending in 'er'.

If someone had implied I was racist just by retwitting something that called my attention, I'd be mad too.

And no, I don't agree with or like everything the guys do, but so far I've seen fans being a LOT more rude and disrespectful to Frank than the other way round. And that particular twit wasn't soemthing to jump on him for.

My opinion.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
difference* and just for retwitting*

And...one thing is to tell him 'you should have thought better before retwitting that, some people could find it offensive and a different one to make a HUGE deal out of it and scream RACIST.

Please...

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
What he said (or retweeted) was racist, and so should be called out.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the person who's twit he retwitted just found funny how people are 'twitterizing' words, most probably didn't even consider that mentioning it would be offensive and ti was the same with frank. Then he just didn't like to be practically called racist. I'd have reacted in a similar way. I don't justify him, but I didn't see the situation like such a big deal. People fuck up all the time, it's fine to tell them to be more careful with what they say. Enough.

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(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my read on this too.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You should probably shut up.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh what a great way of presenting your point. You should probably shut up too, then.

[identity profile] jubella.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite all of those implications that you present, what Frank said was racist no matter how much you try to excuse it. So. Stop making excuses.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Correct. It doesn't matter what was behind it or how it was said, it was still very problematic and racist. It's very important to say this and identify it as such.

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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
They weren't excuses, just a different interpretation,I was just pointing out that you can't directly call someone racist because of this. People make mistakes, just tell them they were wrong.

[identity profile] jubella.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I think that person should have said something like, "What you said is problematic and racist" instead of labeling Frank as a "racist". I agree with that. But your original comment was making excuses for him, and that shit is not on.

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(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
If you had said this I probably wouldn't have started engaging with you in this manner. But you didn't, you did make excuses for him. As a pretty invested Frank fan I am telling you there is no excuse for it and it needs to be called out.

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(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
it doesn't matter how many persons of color on twitter use that word. frank is not a black man, that is why his use of that word was racist. if you are white you should never use any variation of the n-word. end of story. frank and every single white person, regardless of how open-minded they are or how many black friends they have, need to realize this and stop using it immediately no more questions asked.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Nicely said.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I really agree, I don't use it myself, but I can think why many people wouldn't fully realise why it's wrong when seeing others using it as a normal greeting word. So yeah, I agree with telling them ti's wrong, but not with automatically calling them racist.

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(Anonymous) 2009-08-29 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Bullshit. Making a word exclusively for use by black people is in itself racist. It only supports the idea that we're not all equal.

[identity profile] lovinspike247.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
but so far I've seen fans being a LOT more rude and disrespectful to Frank than the other way round.

Those fans are mostly teenage girls. Do you honestly think that Frank replying to them with misogynistic statements was a reasonable response?

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Frank may have been retweeting, but he obviously found it funny enough to retweet in the first place. And if, as you say, his intent was to mock, I don't see how that's any better. In fact, I would consider it a hell of a lot worse.

It is, in fact, racist for a white person to use nigger, or any variation of the word, to refer to a black person, regardless of whether or not black people are using that word themselves. Many of them are using the word to reclaim it - you cannot reclaim a word that has never been applied to you.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
the thing is, I think they were mocking the twitter-ization of the word, not the word itself.

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(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes the people you like and admire do racist things, it's really important to not make excuses for them but to confront it. This goes for even people you don't necessarily know. I like Frank a lot, but this doesn't mean he's not racist and stupid. He needs to stfu and learn.

I hope after these responses you understand better why it was problematic and accept it and the criticism as applied to him (and whoever else would potentially be tempted to use this.)

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this comment.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-28 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I hate when people try to defend twat-like behavior. It was nothing for him to retweet for thousands of people to read. That's IGNORANT.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-08-28 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not defending or excusing, I just think that attacking is wrong. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

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