http://ofyourdeath.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] ofyourdeath.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] tothetune2009-12-25 12:35 am

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Ray Toro
Frank Iero
  • Dec 16, 10:19 PM CST @DayneTheDemon Keep Christ out of my Xmas.

  • Dec 17, 07:01 PM CST Listening to "Big Mama Thornton w/ the Muddy Waters Blues Band" arguably one of the best things ever recorded. If you don't know-go find out
  • Dec 17, 09:43 PM CST @iflifeissofair A saferule to follow would be if there's an account that's NOT linked to our homepage it's a fake. Kind of an easygiveaway
  • Dec 17, 10:27 PM CST RT @TheArchitectsKC: THE ARCHITECTS get ready for early 2010 with a tour alongside Flogging Molly, Frank Turner!! http://bit.ly/6gJ6I7

  • Dec 18, 10:09 AM CST Nice pun RT @bemycupcake: @FrankIero actually, to be quite FRANK, i don't think you'll ever reply me.
  • Dec 18, 12:25 PM CST Haha http://twitpic.com/u1n3z
  • Dec 18, 12:27 PM CST RT @Pinhead_Jessica: @FrankIero is like a bag of fries, you gotta take him with a pinch of salt!
  • Dec 18, 12:50 PM CST @josielovesmcr thank you but I have plans, good luck.
  • Dec 18, 01:03 PM CST Condor ey? You mean like the birdRT @emily_lies: @FrankIero there is a word that has your name in it . Frankness it means to condor,i think.
  • Dec 18, 02:19 PM CST WTF i knew you dudes were hard butnot even pitbulls can survive ur show?RT @coalesceox: PitBull Killed atCoalesce Show http://bit.ly/5H2DHr
  • Dec 18, 06:40 PM CST What a maroon RT @TheArchitectsKC: Senator who makes me throw cans at CSPAN; epic fail. RT @maddow: Go truth squad, go! http://bit.ly/8c0cVP

  • Dec 19, 12:08 PM CST Howdy Suckas http://twitpic.com/u79r9
  • Dec 19, 10:47 PM CST @Chemikalera1 hello sahori from Mexico, thank you for writing me. I'm glad you like my band, I like your cocacola. Xo
  • Dec 19, 10:50 PM CST I'm going to find the snow god of the northeastern US and punch it square in it's vagina.

  • Dec 20, 10:18 PM CST Good job fine print, you're always on top of shit. http://twitpic.com/ugeko

  • Dec 21, 02:00 PM CST Going to see a taping of @jimmyfallon today, So goddamn excited!! I hope I get the Xmas sweater!
  • Dec 21, 02:11 PM CST @TommyTadeo hey sucka how you livin?
  • Dec 21, 02:38 PM CST Ok so the police are meant to protect and serve. But Has anyone following me ever met an on duty cop who was helpful or respectful? Ever?
  • Dec 21, 03:46 PM CST Hmm interesting. I say we reavaluate. If you're a cop who does not want to "serve", we strike that from your job description and pay u 1/2.
  • Dec 21, 03:49 PM CST Also I think we need a serial killer who only targets bad drivers, people who talk at movies and those who push through people when walking
  • Dec 21, 05:56 PM CST Watch @latenightjimmy tonight to see me try to hifive @jimmyfallon and fail horribly!
  • Dec 21, 10:31 PM CST Haha it's kind of amazing the only people that have responded to me with positive cop stories are from people who are related to cops. Hmm
  • Dec 21, 10:34 PM CST Yes fish tend to be stuck up pricks RT @MissShocking: @FrankIero i'm related to a cod... he's still a douche

  • Dec 22, 12:09 AM CST 47! So close yet so far. :( RT @Like_PixieDust: @frankiero what was your sweater number?
  • Dec 22, 12:38 AM CST Haha I've been cut out! So not only did I fail to hifive @jimmyFallon, I made you all watch it and failed to be shown failing!! Haha so rad
  • Dec 22, 01:05 AM CST @jimmyfallon Haha no worries I like keeping streaks going. Btw tried to dm you back and recieved a failure notice
  • Dec 22, 01:33 AM CST Got to see 1 of my fav shows+ 1 of my fav singers w/ my fav person all in 1 day, how rad is that?Everything seems to be turning up millhouse

  • Dec 23, 11:40 AM CST Bring it. u aint the first and im sure not the last RT @bloodyhoney: Studying @FrankIero. Yes, I work as a profiler for a top secret agency.
  • Dec 23, 04:48 PM CST Hi everyone I'm going to take a chance to throw out a blanket "thank you" to all the early, late and on time happy Xmas wishes Ritebakat u!

Mikey Way

Note: Some of the tweets and comments are potentially triggery for domestic violence. Please proceed with caution. And though all the mods are happy that the members are discussing what's being posted, we'd like to remind you that mocking victims is never ok. Please stay civil.

[identity profile] separateskies.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
the attitude isn't needed.

i already said i know where you're coming from and acknowledged that it is legitimate. ok, so you've just admitted that your reaction to what frank has said is related to your personal experience, right? and that's fine. but just like i can appreciate the slightly different way in which you interpret frank's comments, you have to appreciate the different way i and some of the others in this community interpret his comments.

we're not coming from the same place you are, we can't possibly understand if we havent been through it right? of course. but neither can you fully understand how this comment might be found harmless by me or anyone else. i'm just trying to say that different people interpret things in different ways. that doesn't make one more correct than the other.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-28 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
you have to appreciate the different way i and some of the others in this community interpret his comments.

I don't have to appreciate it, actually. I understand it. There's a difference. I don't appreciate feeling belittled because I don't find violence and sexual assault funny.

we're not coming from the same place you are, we can't possibly understand if we havent been through it right?

I never said that. I know a lot of women who have been through similar experiences and have no problem laughing at such jokes, and I know a lot of women who haven't been through similar yet still find themselves just as outraged, or sometimes more, than I and some of the other commenters in this post have been.

but neither can you fully understand how this comment might be found harmless by me or anyone else.

Oh, no, actually I can understand, because before my assault I probably wouldn't have found this at all harmful. But therein lies the problem - just because you don't find something harmful doesn't mean it isn't.

[identity profile] separateskies.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
what i meant by "appreciate" was "understand."

i get what you're saying. i just wonder about the validity of your assumptions about frank being a misogynist or a sexist, being that these things were posted by a self-proclaimed troll.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-28 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon, but please don't go into "self-proclaimed" troll territory. You seem like a smart person, and are at least trying to be somewhat civil in your discussions, but that basically amounts to a "boys will be boys" argument and that's detrimental to everyone involved.

[identity profile] separateskies.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
it's just my opinion that frank is trying actively to get this reaction from people. that's all. i don't mean to say that it's OK for him to recklessly hurt people in the process. i'm just saying that people should try to understand that it's not meant with malice.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-28 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Intent is irrelevant. Let me make a very, very simple analogy: If I am walking along and I step really hard -- by accident or not -- on someone's foot, and they say "OW! That hurt!" as an empathetic and morally responsible member of society, accepting and understanding that someone else's pain is more important than my need to get away without apologizing, my responsibility is to apologize. Whether or not I meant it. Whether or not I think their level of reaction is appropriate. I don't know if their foot is broken or not. I don't know how hard it felt to them. All I know is that I did something that hurt them, and I need to acknowledge that pain and say I'm sorry.

Intent is irrelevant.

[identity profile] separateskies.livejournal.com 2009-12-28 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
it's not always irrelevant. but point made and well said.

it's been nice debating, i don't want you to think i'm abandoning this conversation because i have nothing more to say but it's that i honestly have to go right now lol. i hope i made my points well and cheers to having a debate with someone who can actually speak english, well done i enjoyed it

(Anonymous) 2009-12-28 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think he's a misogynist or a sexist. I think he sometimes says misogynistic or sexist things, but there is a difference. Being a troll is no excuse for saying things that perpetuate violence and defending them as jokes when called out on it.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-28 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I got your meaning wrt "appreciate". It's just that the word has two meanings and being told I have to appreciate something that causes me harm automatically puts me on the defensive. Sorry if I came across wrong there.