http://ofyourdeath.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] ofyourdeath.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] tothetune2009-12-25 12:35 am

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Ray Toro
Frank Iero
  • Dec 16, 10:19 PM CST @DayneTheDemon Keep Christ out of my Xmas.

  • Dec 17, 07:01 PM CST Listening to "Big Mama Thornton w/ the Muddy Waters Blues Band" arguably one of the best things ever recorded. If you don't know-go find out
  • Dec 17, 09:43 PM CST @iflifeissofair A saferule to follow would be if there's an account that's NOT linked to our homepage it's a fake. Kind of an easygiveaway
  • Dec 17, 10:27 PM CST RT @TheArchitectsKC: THE ARCHITECTS get ready for early 2010 with a tour alongside Flogging Molly, Frank Turner!! http://bit.ly/6gJ6I7

  • Dec 18, 10:09 AM CST Nice pun RT @bemycupcake: @FrankIero actually, to be quite FRANK, i don't think you'll ever reply me.
  • Dec 18, 12:25 PM CST Haha http://twitpic.com/u1n3z
  • Dec 18, 12:27 PM CST RT @Pinhead_Jessica: @FrankIero is like a bag of fries, you gotta take him with a pinch of salt!
  • Dec 18, 12:50 PM CST @josielovesmcr thank you but I have plans, good luck.
  • Dec 18, 01:03 PM CST Condor ey? You mean like the birdRT @emily_lies: @FrankIero there is a word that has your name in it . Frankness it means to condor,i think.
  • Dec 18, 02:19 PM CST WTF i knew you dudes were hard butnot even pitbulls can survive ur show?RT @coalesceox: PitBull Killed atCoalesce Show http://bit.ly/5H2DHr
  • Dec 18, 06:40 PM CST What a maroon RT @TheArchitectsKC: Senator who makes me throw cans at CSPAN; epic fail. RT @maddow: Go truth squad, go! http://bit.ly/8c0cVP

  • Dec 19, 12:08 PM CST Howdy Suckas http://twitpic.com/u79r9
  • Dec 19, 10:47 PM CST @Chemikalera1 hello sahori from Mexico, thank you for writing me. I'm glad you like my band, I like your cocacola. Xo
  • Dec 19, 10:50 PM CST I'm going to find the snow god of the northeastern US and punch it square in it's vagina.

  • Dec 20, 10:18 PM CST Good job fine print, you're always on top of shit. http://twitpic.com/ugeko

  • Dec 21, 02:00 PM CST Going to see a taping of @jimmyfallon today, So goddamn excited!! I hope I get the Xmas sweater!
  • Dec 21, 02:11 PM CST @TommyTadeo hey sucka how you livin?
  • Dec 21, 02:38 PM CST Ok so the police are meant to protect and serve. But Has anyone following me ever met an on duty cop who was helpful or respectful? Ever?
  • Dec 21, 03:46 PM CST Hmm interesting. I say we reavaluate. If you're a cop who does not want to "serve", we strike that from your job description and pay u 1/2.
  • Dec 21, 03:49 PM CST Also I think we need a serial killer who only targets bad drivers, people who talk at movies and those who push through people when walking
  • Dec 21, 05:56 PM CST Watch @latenightjimmy tonight to see me try to hifive @jimmyfallon and fail horribly!
  • Dec 21, 10:31 PM CST Haha it's kind of amazing the only people that have responded to me with positive cop stories are from people who are related to cops. Hmm
  • Dec 21, 10:34 PM CST Yes fish tend to be stuck up pricks RT @MissShocking: @FrankIero i'm related to a cod... he's still a douche

  • Dec 22, 12:09 AM CST 47! So close yet so far. :( RT @Like_PixieDust: @frankiero what was your sweater number?
  • Dec 22, 12:38 AM CST Haha I've been cut out! So not only did I fail to hifive @jimmyFallon, I made you all watch it and failed to be shown failing!! Haha so rad
  • Dec 22, 01:05 AM CST @jimmyfallon Haha no worries I like keeping streaks going. Btw tried to dm you back and recieved a failure notice
  • Dec 22, 01:33 AM CST Got to see 1 of my fav shows+ 1 of my fav singers w/ my fav person all in 1 day, how rad is that?Everything seems to be turning up millhouse

  • Dec 23, 11:40 AM CST Bring it. u aint the first and im sure not the last RT @bloodyhoney: Studying @FrankIero. Yes, I work as a profiler for a top secret agency.
  • Dec 23, 04:48 PM CST Hi everyone I'm going to take a chance to throw out a blanket "thank you" to all the early, late and on time happy Xmas wishes Ritebakat u!

Mikey Way

Note: Some of the tweets and comments are potentially triggery for domestic violence. Please proceed with caution. And though all the mods are happy that the members are discussing what's being posted, we'd like to remind you that mocking victims is never ok. Please stay civil.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-26 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, Frank? You make me sick. Nice to see you're keeping up with the humor of his band's idiotic company.

Mods, can we have a warning added to this post too, please? Laughing about punching women in their genitals is pretty disgusting.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-26 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, thank you.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-12-26 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, cause the snow god -who of course exists and has a body like all of us- is a woman (though Frank said "it" and "God") and is surely pretty offended now. Is it just as offensive if the snow god used to be a man and got a sex change?

Please...

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Uppercunt

The idea of punching anything 'in the vagina' is sexist and disgusting. I'm sure anyone who's been the victim of such a sexualized attack is laughing along with Frank.

Oh wait. They're probably not.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Whatever you say, your choice if you wanna be offended because he wants to punch an inexistent being in its inexistent vagina.

I'm not. I must be sexist, I'm not going to be able to sleep at night now.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously you've never been the victim of sexual assault, so you must be finding it hard to understand what's wrong with Frank's comments.

Defending him and his right to free speech is very important to you, I get that. But the thing is, sexual violence isn't funny, and Frank's tweets have the potential to trigger victims.

I'm sure none of MCR would want that happening to any of their fans if they were aware it could happen, so as a fan community we have a responsibility to protect our members by alerting them to the fact that content behind a cut might be upsetting.

If you don't like what the mods have done here, you can leave the community. Simple as that.
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[identity profile] yekith.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Again, your opinion, I won't discuss that because I have a very different opinion about many things, a very different way to take things, and it doesn't have anything to do with Frank being the person discussed here.

I don't judge people so easily, I make lots of mistakes and make lots of jokes with things that could offend some people. I'm guilty of that. So I won't judge anyone for it.

Sometimes we can't even imagine that some things we say could offend and we also assume people will figure out we're not being serious. We all have different senses of humor, also. We all have fun in different ways and sometimes those different ways collide, that's all.

You say Frank's jokes could trigger victims? Okay, whether I agree or not it's okay if you wanna say that and ask for a warning, because it's what you feel. Now, people going as far as assuming he's a woman hater or whatever is going TOO far. I say lots of things as a joke that don't represent what I am, and I'd hate to be accused that way. People forget all the good we've seen/read/heard about him too easily.

Some people should just avoid Frank's twits if they can't handle his humor or just don't like him/is offended by what he says, easier. He's never offended me, I haven't changed my opinion about him. Some things are far more important to me that what he says in Twitter anyway.

And this is the last thing I'll say about this and about anything related to Frank's twits because really, this could be neverending and I don't come here for arguments.

If I left the community -which I won't- it wouldn't be because of anything the mods have done, whether I agree or not it's their decision. And I could easily ignore this entries since i see the twits in twitter anyway, so it's my own fault for being curious. I'll try to be stronger next time.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
Now, people going as far as assuming he's a woman hater or whatever is going TOO far. I say lots of things as a joke that don't represent what I am, and I'd hate to be accused that way.

What we say and how we behave is EXACTLY what we are judged on, jokes or not. It's how we represent ourself that forms people's opinions about us. And Frank's isn't making knock-knock jokes here, come on.

His tweets show a habit of mocking women and finding entertainment value in violence against women. From his digs at how females choose to style their hair, right through to laughing about 'battered' women and stating that a woman whose children she couldn't control should have given herself an abortion.

Now, the fact that he's not put 'I HATE ANYTHING WITH A VAGINA' on his weekly tweets is irrelevant. These things listed above are textbook misogynistic traits. And you're probably right; he doesn't guess that people will be offended by it. But that's because he's male, and doesn't have to deal with the issues concerned from his privileged position. He is ignorant to the problems with his own behavior. That isn't a 'get out of criticism free' pass, sorry.

This is exactly how violence and disrespect against women is allowed to flourish and continue unchallenged. Because people aren't called out on it, and remain ignorant to it. Because people like Frank do it, so hey, what can be wrong about it?

Frank is an adult, and in a position of power where his twittered words are broadcast to millions of impressionable people via the band's website.

You're right, people can just choose not to follow him. But his insults and blatant sexism is attached to a band who claim to respect women and empower them in what is traditionally a very sexist music scene.

I didn't come here to argue either. But I think the people defending Frank here really need to think about how Frank himself might be at fault, rather than leaping to his aid every single time.

[identity profile] xanax-n-wine.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course we can actully KNOW a person through 140 characters...

I am not mocking your opinions, far from it. I get that things that he says, his 'audience' will take it on the other way, the wrong way, but dude, if we just see black/white and forget the color in between, everything that people say and we don't agree/think it's an offense to gender/idek anymore we will never leave our houses or, if we do, we will argue with everyone that crosses our way.


(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know people are taking what he says "the wrong way"? Perhaps you think you KNOW him? Hmmm...

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no possible way that whatever 'colors' or shades Frank's humor has could make it right to disrespect women the way he has been doing lately. And if it's hard for him to convey his sophisticated points in 140 characters the perhaps he should shut the fuck up next time he feels on picking on women just for the hell of it.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And all those People of Color should have just stayed indoors too and turned the other cheek instead of getting so uppity and offended, amirite? GET A CLUE.

[identity profile] bittersweetrick.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
As a little girl, I was a victim of constant sexual abuse by my mom's cousin, and, growing up, I had to deal with jerks making actual stupid, disgusting, offensive, degrading comments about women. Comments I could actually say "fucking women-haters."

...and somehow I'm not offended by this comment of his at all. Huh. I guess you have to be a specific kind of sexual assault victim to be offended by his tweets. Which are his way of venting on the internet. Like the rest of us.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Read my comment again. No one's saying you 'have' to be offended. Just that you should understand why others might be, and not judge them for being so, or try to shut down any debate about it.

[identity profile] bittersweetrick.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Because people who never went through that sort of experience are incapable of fathoming what us, poor victims, have gone through, right?

I'm sorry, but I think your argument is invalid if that's the route your taking. People who have really gone through situations where men have demeaned them in any should understand why Frank's tweets are just meaningless jokes.

[livejournal.com profile] maryangel200 once said a specific day had to choke on a dick. I sometimes say I wanna cut off the clock's dick off when I'm running late and forth and so on. None of that means either Marie or I are sexists who actually want to cut off guys' dicks off or want people to choke on dicks (what an embarrassing way to go, that would be). It just mean we're frustrated at that moment and we're venting off on non-existent things. Letting off steam on twitter.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Talking about dicks is totally different because society is male dominated. You cannot oppress the oppressor. So no, it's totally different thing.

Because people who never went through that sort of experience are incapable of fathoming what us, poor victims, have gone through, right?

I'm sorry, but I think your argument is invalid if that's the route your taking.


What I said was that anyone who sees the reality and trauma of what women have to be subjected to in our culture, including assault victims, should understand why people have a right to be offended by cruel jokes.

And you saying that all people should understand why Frank's jokes are meaningless just backfires on your own logic, sadly. Why should we have to accept that?

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Frank. He must be so stressed! I can't imagine how hard his life is, being male, white and rich. That would make me want to punch a girl in the sex organs too!

[identity profile] bittersweetrick.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Because white, male, rich people are happy 24/7. Nothing EVER happens that could frustrate them.

(seriously, dude. Your bitterness is showing.)

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[identity profile] xanax-n-wine.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I forgot that you have crystal balls and know everything about everyone's lives... And how holy you are, I'm sure you never said something that would upset somebody!

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Did he tell you that his tweets were his way of venting over the internet over coffee?

[identity profile] bittersweetrick.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, he called me up and told me he meant every word. True story.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't you know? They write fanfic about him, therefore they know all his innermost thoughts.

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-27 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So you think you have the right to speak for every abused female out there? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

There are many different types of abuse. Misogyny manifests itself in many different ways. I have personally experienced being discriminated against in the workplace and been harassed sexually because I am female. Does that mean that you and I share the same mindset? Obviously, it does not.

[identity profile] bittersweetrick.livejournal.com 2009-12-27 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!

Oh, sorry. Didn't mean to laugh so blatantly. It's just. I feel like I have the right to speak for every abused female out there? Ha. That is hilarious. Isn't that what the original comment implied? But I guess my comment is more arrogant, because I'm on the opposite side.

And, to answer your question: no, I don't think I voice every rape victim out there, I was speaking as one. Because, you're right, assuming that just because you went through something remotely close to sexual violence gives you the high ground to take everything too seriously and speak for others is ridiculous. I barely speak for myself, let alone others.

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