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Mikey Way

• Sep 23, 03:39 AM CST @ultragrrrl still in shock! that meant the world to us, you have no idea. THANK YOU so much!
• Sep 23, 03:49 AM CST @mattg00d I didn't know you were there dude!
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• Sep 23, 07:20 PM CST Thank you to Kevin, Lisa, Kat and everyone at @kroq for helping us kick it off!! and to all of you for the #1..floored http://bit.ly/97D1oD
• Sep 23, 07:22 PM CST @ShaunSimon Colonel Butterfield needs our help! He's still in the shit
• Sep 23, 08:44 PM CST Thank you Mr. @zanelowe and the @bbc for helping us set it off in our home away from home! #NaNaNa

Ray Toro

• Sep 22, 02:12 PM CST @RiversCuomo thanks so much yeaterday
• Sep 22, 02:14 PM CST @RiversCuomo thanks so much for yesterday! Had the best time.
• Sep 22, 02:15 PM CST @ShelbyCantDance thank you guys!
• Sep 22, 03:08 PM CST KROQ just played na na na. Request that shit!!!!
• Sep 22, 03:17 PM CST @busimomm the new sound is every sound. Just wait.
• Sep 22, 03:17 PM CST And radio1 too!
• Sep 22, 04:15 PM CST @lillyhasspoken just wait. The new record is everything you could want. No rules.
• Sep 22, 07:30 PM CST @ClaudiaDAzevedo everything...
• Sep 23, 12:44 AM CST Thanks for getting us to #1 on KROQ!
• Sep 23, 01:11 AM CST Thanks for getting na na na to #1 KROQ!
• Sep 23, 02:59 PM CST Who will survive? What will be left of them? “@gerardway: International press- day 4!”
• Sep 23, 11:06 PM CST Harvest moon!
• Sep 24, 12:15 PM CST Whitespace finally freed up! Super Wifi here we come!
• Sep 24, 03:16 PM CST @ClaudiaDAzevedo freedom

Gerard Way

• Sep 21, 01:32 PM CST @beckycloonan fucking AWESOME! You rock
• Sep 23, 02:52 PM CST International press- day 4!
• Sep 24, 01:03 PM CST good morning fresh pack of batteries
• Sep 24, 01:09 PM CST @maximumaldwin I agree whole-heartedly. That was never intended to be the characters name for that exact reason. It ended up on a call sheet
• Sep 24, 01:11 PM CST @maximumaldwin and people started calling him that name. If you look on his knuckles you'll find the words "SHOW PONY". His real name

Frank Iero

• Sep 22, 07:11 PM CST Ahhh I'm gonna be "IN" the radio?!?!? WTF i didnt agree to that! RT @cami_mcr: @frankiero when r u going to be in the radio???
• Sep 22, 07:12 PM CST Hahahah RT @juuuulii_: @FrankIero i think she meant to be AT the radio

@MCRofficial

• Sep 24, 12:27 PM CST Tickets for the "World Contamination Tour" are on sale now. Visit http://mychemicalromance.com/news for information on where to get tickets!

Comments

[kashiichan.livejournal.com]

I am so glad that Gerard addressed the "ladyboy" issue.

[anna-unfolding.livejournal.com]

Oh my God me too. I have a bursting shooting star of love for this song and the trailer and the band. But that rly frustrated me. They've clearly been an anti-homophobic band, and they are seeking to push boundaries of gender. Even the little girl, who could have easily been a boy except we knew they'd cast a girl--I just love that crossing boundaries thing--but the term ladyboy just can't fly. I tried and tried to think of a way it'd be okay and mebe mebe mebe if the character called herself that? To reclaim the insult as something else??? Kind of like a gay character referring to himself as The Fag or something... then MAYBE. But that's not how it was presented. So THANK YOU GERARD. Proving yourself to be a class act.

[(Anonymous)]

Is it bad that I don't believe Gerard?

I mean, Dr. Death Defying called the character "Ladyboy" on his twitter and made reference once before (a long time ago) to "packing up the lady" (even before the trailer came out). It seems to me that they've always intended to call him Ladyboy. I think maybe Gerard was just doing a little damage control with that tweet. I hate to think like that, but I don't understand why they would let it get so far if it was a mistake.

[anna-unfolding.livejournal.com]

Is it bad that if you are right, I would still forgive them if they upped the damage control STAT and went much louder as on the record about transgender labels? I haven't rly followed all the twitter stuff. So I didn't know when or where she was called ladyboy. You could be right, and maybe for those of us who care, G will have to be more vocal than one little tweet comment, or our love for him will always have an asterisk next to it. No, people don't have to be perfect, but with gender and labels I do expect the highest vigilance from them. Their anti-homophobic message was why I moved from liking fic about the band to liking the band.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I do think they need to do more than make an apologetic tweet. They need to make a statement of some sort and maybe even ask fans to stop using the name.

I realize some people won't see what the big deal is, but my best friend for the past 6 years has gone nearly his entire life being called "girlie boy" among other things. I don't think people can truly understand how hurtful names like that can be unless they've experienced it first hand.

[anna-unfolding.livejournal.com]

No, it's totally a big deal. I'd love to see a statement, too.

[trudybooth.livejournal.com]

Ladyboy isn't ONLY an offensive term. In fact, It was news to me to find out it WAS offensive. I think of it in the Thai way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladyboy

It's not unreasonable to assume the My Chem dudes were thinking the same way -- what with them not being known for sluring ANYBODY much less along gender or sexuality lines.

And when someone DID say they were offended My Chem apologized and changed it -- which was gracious and appropriate.

[anna-unfolding.livejournal.com]

I think you could be right; perhaps they thought it was playful and not tied to hate the way it is outside of Thailand. I think it's a big deal that we don't use derogatory labels when we know better. If we don't know better, then we can rectify the situation when pointed out. Have they done anything beside Gerard's two tweets? An apology or something? Just checking in case I missed it; the tweets don't rly look like an apology. I'm totally glad he replied as he did (as opposed to not caring or responding at all).

But regardless of who came up with the term: the band, the casting call, the fans--I think it'd be great to get the term out of the dialogue asap and my opinion is that that would take more leadership than two tweets. But I do appreciate him addressing it at all. Hopefully we can all start saying Show Pony with or without Gerard saying anything else on the matter. That, I guess, is the most important thing. That the term doesn't keep getting used in conjunction with a transgender or seemingly trans character.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. I just can't seem to get past the fact that Dr. Death Defying used it in his tweets. I would think those are scripted.

Gerard's explanation doesn't fly for me. There needs to be some active attempt on the band's or management's part to change the character's name.

[(Anonymous)]

Not slurring ANYONE, seriously? Where the fuck have you been for the last three years?They've become the most hateful, misogynistic and offensive band this side of their buddies MSI. Have you not even seen their tweets? Did you miss Gerard telling the girls in his crown to fuck themselves ("Ladies, I want you all to ACTUALLY FUCK YOURSELVES", and come for him, and "make it convincing"??

Please. I gave up on this hate-spewing band years ago. They're ignorant.

[trudybooth.livejournal.com]

Then what on earth are you DOING here, Trolly Trollerson?

[ofyourdeath.livejournal.com]

Please keep it civil.

[trudybooth.livejournal.com]

Sorry, Mom!

[ofyourdeath.livejournal.com]

Please keep it civil.

[(Anonymous)]

that's how i thought of it too. i think people are just too fucking PC and have to find things to be offended by

[(Anonymous)]

From the very same Wiki article that you posted:

Using the notion of Karma, some Thai believe that being a kathoey is the result of transgressions in past lives, concluding that kathoey deserve pity rather than blame.[8]

Kathoey women currently face many social and legal impediments. Families (and especially fathers) are typically disappointed if a son becomes a kathoey, and kathoey women often have to face the prospect of coming out. However, kathoey generally have greater acceptance in Thailand than most other Asian countries.[10] Legal recognition of kathoeys is non-existent in Thailand: even after genital reassignment surgery, they are not allowed to change their legal sex. Discrimination in employment remains rampant.[11] Issues can also arise in regards to access to amenities and gender allocation; for example, a kathoey who had undergone sexual reassignment surgery would still have to stay in an all-male prison.

So now what was it you were saying again about "ladyboys" being accepted in Thailand?

[trudybooth.livejournal.com]

I didn't say it was a perfect paradise...

Want to quote the good things in the article too now? Like how they're working to get a third gender on passports and how they've gotten official recognition in various capacities?

I'm saying they're a visible, ancient, and even (though not universally) esteemed part of Thai culture.

Most relevant to THIS discussion, however, LadyBoy is now they self-identify and its not a slur to them.

[clandestine-fey.livejournal.com]

No, It's not.

I mean, personally I've seen letters on his knuckles so I believe it was meant to be called SHOW PONY, also it's possible that just around the team they started calling him LadyBoy based on the casting so Dr.DDF could've just been sating a familiar name.

Plus the character himself could just be derrogatary in nature, so you know.

[anna-unfolding.livejournal.com]

AND! Ray and the Harvest Moon!! [loves]