http://ofyourdeath.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] ofyourdeath.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] tothetune2009-12-03 07:21 pm

Gerard in Rock Sound


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MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE
Interview: Andrew Kelham

Have you thought about how My Chemical Romance will reintroduce themselves to music fans in 2010? Do you ever wonder if your band is still needed in music?
Says Gerard Way (vocals):
"It's funny because the musical landscape is ever changing, but I think there's always a place for us and I think we're absolutely needed, especially now. I don't say that with any arrogance, I just really believe in my band and I believe that our band does what it does better than anybody else. There's no one that can do this like us. I feel a gap when we are gone and I hope people do too, if they don't then we're not doing our job properly. I think we're absolutely needed, but I'm glad we're coming back in 2010 because, as much as people need us, I think they needed a break from us too. I hope we got the balance of that right."

What have you tried to achieve with your forthcoming fourth album? How is it different from you past work?
"With this record we tried to ignore all the cosmetic nonsense and focus on becoming a truly great rock band. We felt that the world needed a really straight and pure rock band, you're hard pressed to find a lot of those these days. It was less about the theatricality and more about how we become the greatest young American rock band musically."

How are you adapting to fatherhood?
"It's great, it's amazing. Obviously we just wanted a healthy baby, but I was excited to have a girl as there are things I can see myself helping a girl with that I could never do with a guy, things like picking out clothes and stealing eyeliner, all that sort of stuff!"

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(Anonymous) 2009-12-03 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just an odd comment in general and I'm not sure I buy the interpretation you're putting forth but it's interesting.

- K. Does not have a journal.

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't have to buy my interpretation. I just get sick of the fact that every time he opens his mouth people criticize every little thing just so they can be disappointed in how he doesn't live up to their expectations. I'm offering an alternative interpretation that maybe the few people like me who don't want him constantly torn down for can appreciate or that people can think about.

I just find it interesting that so-called feminists are the first to decry anything that girls might actually be interested in and it's just as insidious and damaging when it implies what women shouldn't or can't be.

Language is imperfect, but from the fact that he's talking about sharing something with his daughter, can we not assume from that that maybe he isn't making a statement that is exclusionary of boys, but simply pointing out something that doesn't have the same social stigma for girls that he enjoys?

(Anonymous) 2009-12-03 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I can have this debate with you as you are extremely defensive. I wasn't attacking you and I wasn't attacking him or "tearing him down" and neither is anyone else in these comments. People are having a fascinating debate on the issue and some pretty educated dialogue.

- A "so-called feminist"

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
So don't.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-03 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I just find it interesting that so-called feminists are the first to decry anything that girls might actually be interested in and it's just as insidious and damaging when it implies what women shouldn't or can't be.

That's not at all what people are saying, they're saying that breaking it down into gender roles AT ALL is not okay, not that girls can or cannot like anything. That's not the point.

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Gender roles in and of themselves aren't bad. They're categories. He's not limiting the category like people assume because he's put himself into the category of liking and sharing eyeliner. Yes, is he making certain assumptions about a boy not being interested? Sure, but if he did have a boy and he did force the boy into eyeliner, would he not still be forcing a gender role upon him?

The only time gender roles become damaging is when they become a box, and I'm sorry if I find the argument ridiculous because of all people to start nitpicking on about conforming to gender roles, it's Gerard Way? He's not only broken out of that box, but smashed it to splinters. Give the guy a break.

I don't even know why I'm arguing this; arguing on the internet is ridiculous, especially with someone who won't put a name to it.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-03 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever noticed how people always rush to pull out the "anonymous = stupid" defense as soon as someone anonymous says something they can't argue with?

-not the original anon, just looking to make a (possibly cheap) point

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I have always noticed that "anonymous" makes things real easy to deny and not stand behind. You are correct, you made a cheap point, especially since I didn't say anonymous was stupid. I said it was stupid to argue with someone who remains anonymous. There's a difference.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-03 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Please don't use the argument that because I don't have a journal somehow my argument does not carry weight. That is a cop-out. To me gender roles are problematic because despite you not putting them in a box people DO put them in a box ESPECIALLY society. And it's interesting to discuss it regarding Gerard's quote because he has in the past been interested in gender roles and has spoken about them.

That however does NOT give him the right to make problematic statements and not get called out on them. Your interpretation may differ and that's perfectly valid but accusing everyone in this post of bashing him, tearing him down is ridiculous. THAT is a ridiculous argument. So now because he's done some things and said some quotes we can't criticize him when we feel he's made a problematic statement? That is RIDICULOUS.

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say you didn't carry weight, I said it was stupid to argue with someone who won't sign their name. Which you can do, and still fall under the "anonymous" moniker without getting a journal.

-Tempore

(Anonymous) 2009-12-03 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Katy. Now can you respond to my argument or no?

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
See the comments below.

[identity profile] strobelighted.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
No one is tearing Gerard down. Most people have actually expressed delight at this interview. We're just analyzing a phrase he used because it is relevant to a broader subject that interests us and we happen to think is important.

No one is saying what girls or women should or should not be interested in. We're just remarking upon how gender roles and society's expectations of what girls should/should not like are so deeply ingrained and how that comes across in Gerard's somewhat self-contradictory statement.

[identity profile] tempore.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, because that's my point, too, it is somewhat self-contradictory. And to be fair, I've made an assumption I shouldn't have, partly based in prior experience in other communities where it's a pastime for fans to immediately start tearing everything he says and does apart.

[identity profile] jezrana.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I just get sick of the fact that every time he opens his mouth people criticize every little thing just so they can be disappointed in how he doesn't live up to their expectations. I'm offering an alternative interpretation that maybe the few people like me who don't want him constantly torn down for can appreciate or that people can think about.

I'm not interested in getting into a big debate about gender roles, but I think you're letting defensiveness cloud your view of things here. I'm not saying people aren't overly critical of Gerard at times, because I've seen that happen and it bothers me, too, but also I don't think it's overly critical or tearing him down to point out that something he said is potentially problematic.

[identity profile] cheshireempress.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I just find it interesting that so-called feminists are the first to decry anything that girls might actually be interested in and it's just as insidious and damaging when it implies what women shouldn't or can't be.

Where, exactly, did anyone say that? Pointing out that it's strange that Gerard, a guy who likes dressing up and eyeliner, seems to think that he could share those interests with a son but not a daughter, has nothing in common with "decrying things girls are interested in".

replying to self because I can't edit:

[identity profile] cheshireempress.livejournal.com 2009-12-03 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"he could share those interests with a son but not a daughter" should obviously be the other way around. My bad.